Episode 45

Hello Ass kickers!

I’m super excited for y’all to hear this episode with my friend and colleague Laura Probasco. Laura is a mega ass-kicker and she brings it on today’s show. Her background is in social work and play therapy and she’s well-schooled in Brené Brown’s teachings which is how we first connected.

Laura is the founder of Probasco and Associates as well as the co-founder of The Art of Play, a play therapy training program for individuals, schools and organizations. She has taken her work around the globe interacting with people from all walks of life.

On this episode we dive into topics like vulnerability hangovers, hotwiring emotional connections, and the link between isolation and perfectionism.

We also talk about:

  • Why it’s normal to have vulnerability hangovers.
  • Marble people: what are they and why do they matter?
  • What does the term breautiful mean?
  • Why you can’t have courage and comfort at the same time.
  • The best tool Laura has used in her own personal growth journey.
  • And much more!

When it comes to vulnerability hangovers and hotwiring emotional connections, Laura shares a personal story from her own life (something many of us will relate to!). There are many lessons to take away from that story, including why we have vulnerability hangovers.

A vulnerability hangover is when you’ve shared deeply personal experiences with someone, and you later worry about what you’ve said, how you said and how the person on the receiving end was left. The hotwiring is when we share this information with someone we don’t know very well, like a nearby passenger on an airplane in Laura’s case. I mean, who hasn’t spilled their guts to a stranger before!?

During this show we talk about what to do if you’ve ever had a hotwiring connection or a vulnerability hangover, how to handle both and why they aren’t always bad experiences to have.

Continuing on that theme, Laura shares how our need for intimacy combined with our need for perfection leads us into isolation. She offers great suggestions on how to cope when we begin to isolate ourselves, including how to reach out to those friends we know we can turn to when we’re in the darkness. We even give you a word for word script to use with these friends so you can ask for what you need. (Because I know you all love scripts!)

There’s so much in this episode with Laura. She shares how she broke up with herself and why, the process and journey to worthiness and how to surrender control without losing your mind! Listen in to hear our thoughts and suggestions on all of this on the 45th edition of the Your Kick-Ass Life Podcast.

Probasco and Associates’ website
Laura Probasco’s YouTube channel
YKAL episode on how to be an amazing friend 

And don’t forget, registration is NOW OPEN for The Kick-Ass Courage Masterclass.


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Laura recently partnered with 3 other ladies to create The Fearless Female. The Fearless Female was inspired by many incredible women AND men who have mentored the women involved over decades, and have inspired them to live and dream big, fearless, and even when afraid and vulnerable, do it anyway. The Fearless Female is a place for celebrating women entrepreneurs, no matter the size of the project, or the longevity of its visionary. You will find inspiration, services provided to women in business, opportunities for substantial growth in health and wellness, stories of overcoming fear, and the courage to start new.

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