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Margaret Romero returns to the podcast!  She is a Columbia- trained board certified nurse practitioner. She utilizes functional medicine to treat chronic illness, hormone imbalances, and autoimmune conditions. In this episode, we explore some of the things women should know about hormones and hormone imbalances and the difference between conventional medicine and functional medicine. We also touch on the topic of misogyny in medicine. 

Some of the topics we also discuss include: 

  • Is it normal for women in their 40s, 50s or even 60s to have low libido? (17:06)
  • Why masculine energy is creating havoc in women’s bodies (21:31)
  • Can you talk about the connection between what we eat and how we feel? (IE: if we eat this often, we’ll feel like that) (30:29)

Resources:
Margaret’s website
Sex with Emily podcast
US BioTek allergy testing

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Margaret A. Romero NP-C is a Columbia- trained board certified nurse practitioner. She utilizes functional medicine to treat chronic illness, hormone imbalances, and autoimmune conditions. She has been a clinical instructor and taught functional/integrative medicine at Columbia University. She is the host of The Sacred Medicine Podcast and author of From Flare to Fabulous: 25 Things You Must Do to Avoid Your Next Lupus Flare.

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SHOW TRANSCRIPT

Margaret  00:00
In these days, people are just reaching for things that are easy and fast and just like throwing in a microwave or just like going to these fast food places, but that's not health. And if you're not eating, the way sort of nature intended with the veggies and all of that, what you put into your body, you cannot feel vibrant, your hormones will be at most likely out of whack, you will become new nutrient deficient and then the body just starts to break down.

Andrea  00:32
You're listening Make Some Noise Podcast episode number 494 with guest Margaret Romero.

Welcome to Make Some Noise Podcast, your guide for strategies, tools and insight to empower yourself. I'm your host, Andrea Owen, global speaker, entrepreneur, life coach since 2007, and author of three books that have been translated into 18 languages and are available in 22 countries. Each week, I'll bring you a guest or a lesson that will help you maximize unshakable confidence, master resilience and make some noise in your life. You ready? Let's go.

Hey, everyone, welcome to another episode of the women's health theme on the podcast. We're chugging along here. I have just been ecstatic to bring you these guests that we've had over the last several weeks. I want to return to this theme next year with a little spin on it. More about that later. But before we get into the episode, hey, coming up on December 15… Hey, in case you weren't listening. On December 15 2022, at 1pm Eastern Time, that's 10am Pacific time. I don't know what time that is in England or Australia or any other place in Europe or any other place on the globe, you'll have to look it up on a timezone thing. We are doing an AMA Zoom call, that's Ask Me Anything. And I'm excited because we're going to record it and put it out as a podcast, super fun. Emily is going to join me. Emily's been here with me for 10 years. So more on that later, when I introduce her on the call, and literally asked me anything. You can come and ask me about my skincare routine, you can come and ask for specific advice about something. Maybe you read something in one of my books, and you're like, I'm not super clear on that. I need more information, come and ask me you can ask me what a day in the life looks like, over here. I cannot promise I will answer every single very personal private thing, but I probably will. And I can't promise I'm going to know the answer to anything, but I'm always really honest, if I don't, if I don't know I'm not going to make shit up.

Also, that is going to be part of the celebration for the rerelease of How To Stop Feeling Like Shit. I'm also going to be giving away a personalized signed copy of the book to someone who comes live on the call. It is a Zoom call. You don't have to come on video if you don't want to. And if you cannot make it live, but you have a question for me, I would love for you to email us. And let me know what the question is just support at Support@AndreaOwen.com. You can ask your question, but I would love for as many people as possible to be there live, even if you're like on your lunch break or at work or whatever, and just have to kind of listen in on mute and off video or whatever. And I'm excited you might get to hear your voice on the podcast. Or if you can't make it, or if you want to just type your question to the chat on Zoom when you're there, you might hear your question, and I'm excited to get to connect with you. That's the thing that I'm the most pumped about. Is getting to connect with you guys. That is December 15. It's a Thursday at one o'clock Eastern time.

And that being said, let's get into the guest today. As per usual, I haven't been saying this on every podcast episode, I'm sorry. The guests that I bring on this is their area of expertise. I have no affiliation with them unless I specifically tell you and as always take everything with a grain of salt. Do your own research and due diligence. And I think that's about it. So Margaret's been here before Margaret has a special place in my heart because I she'd been on before. So I knew her and I was messaging with her about my physical health stuff I was having a while back and she was really the one who was like, you need to keep persisting about this something isn't right. And I did keep persisting and I did finally get to a diagnosis for myself which I'm well on my way to healing. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.

So for those of you that are new to her, let me tell you a little bit about our guest, Margaret A Romero is a Columbia trained board certified nurse practitioner. She utilizes functional medicine to treat chronic illness, hormone imbalances and autoimmune conditions. She has been a clinical instructor and taught Functional slash Integrative Medicine at Columbia University. She is the host of the Sacred Medicine Podcast and author of From Flare to Fabulous: 25 things you must do to avoid your next lupus flare. So without further ado, here is Margaret.

Margaret, thank you so much for being on the show. I'm so glad you're here.

Margaret  05:40
Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be connecting with you this morning.

Andrea  05:43
Yeah, we've talked a few times before I've been on your show. And, you know, I private messaged you about like my own health stuff. So I was like, Okay, I need to just get you on the show. So we can, we can talk about it publicly Because you specialize in women's health and my audience, the vast majority of them are women. So you are a board-certified functional medicine nurse practitioner, and you've had your own health journey with lupus. So can you share some of your journey? I'm not even totally clear what lupus looks like, and you know what the symptoms are. And how has functional medicine helped you heal from lupus.

Margaret  06:21
So Lupus is an autoimmune condition, just like MS and Sjogren’s. And rheumatoid arthritis. What it looks like in every person is a little different, but it's a full-fledged like inflammation of the body. And for each diagnosis, it will attack a particular thing. So for rheumatoid arthritis, it is the joints. For me for lupus, I was diagnosed with lupus nephritis And so it did affect my kidneys. But I did have full organ involvement at the time. And this was about 13 years ago, when I really wasn't big into functional medicine at the time. But after my diagnosis, I learned everything I could. And also from my own personal experience I you know, have come to heal from it and my DNA and my other sort of antibody levels are no longer seen in my bloodwork, which is amazing.

Andrea  07:21
Wow. Okay, so I didn't know it had been that long. I thought it was more recent. You and I were chatting before we started recording and you had a podcast episode that came out where you talked about the two medicines that traditional doctors give to women and you said these are your words, not mine, that to meds to shut women up. So like they don't feel well, they go to the doctor, all their labs come back relatively normal. So they're prescribed what?

Margaret  07:50
The two meds are birth control pills and antidepressants when they don't need it. This is you know, when they don't need it. I'm not saying that there aren't there aren't mental health issues that require antidepressants, but when a woman is like there's something up, there's something wrong, I just don't feel right. Do you know how many times I've heard women say this? And then they'll do really basic blood work that shows literally nothing? And it does it shows nothing. And so then they're like, oh, okay, well, maybe you're depressed and so here's a prescription. And it's like, what the hell is that? What kind of medicine is that?

And so I did a podcast on this because it really does… It's so frustrating for me, it wouldn't be done to men, men would have been treated this way in medicine, but women are so often. And they're like, oh, well, the doctor says my bloodwork looks fine, but I still don't feel good. And I think that the biggest reason behind that I mean now that I'm practicing functional medicine full time, is that there's just not enough comprehensive bloodwork that's being done. Not only with bloodwork, but stool testing or adrenal testing, etc testing for heavy metals. I mean, maybe she has thyroid, you know, Hashimotos thyroiditis, but no one ever seems to do thyroid antibodies. They just sort of go right into just the TSH. Oh, your TSH was fine so your thyroid is fine, but it's so wrong because that's not that that one number doesn't tell us much. You know?

Andrea  09:22
That happened to me. And it's so interesting like I'm in as you and I are having this conversation I'm in the midst of switching doctors partly because I wasn't happy and partly because my doctor is retiring. So I found an integrative doctor that came highly recommended and the couple of women that I know said she will look at everything and we I actually have an appointment with her next week so we can have a conversation. She has my entire health history from my previous doctor and all the blood work that's going on right now.

And I have the same thing like I don't feel good. I've had fairly rapid weight gain over the last since may remember I fit into a pair of jeans in May that I can't even get over my hips now. And it's it November like it's not been that long. I don't feel good. It's something like my body's telling me like something's up but my labs mostly look good. My thyroid is like on the high side. So she did that antibody thing and one of the numbers came back high. I don't even remember what it was. And they're like, come back in three months, and we're gonna test you again. And I'm like, what do I do in the meantime, just like ride it out?

Margaret  10:31
Three months?

Andrea  10:32
Yeah, they told me to come back in three months. They made an appointment, and they're gonna test it again. This is why I went and I'm like, okay, I need a different doctor that's going to try to get to the bottom of it. I feel like they're not really listening to me.

Margaret  10:42
No, no, no. This is what bothers me so much. Why does this happen? And so the new person is that you're meeting them for the first time or are they already…

Andrea  10:54
So that's next week. So I'll keep you posted everybody on how that goes. But I just felt like and it's also frustrating as a layperson who doesn't… So I'm googling, you know, I get my labs back and I'm looking at the numbers that are out of whack based on the, you know, like the metrics that they show you on the thing, and I'm Googling, like, what are the what is this acronym? What does this mean? What does it mean when it's high? And I'm like, I shouldn't have to do this.

Margaret  11:18
No, no, exactly. And I will say that conventional medicine loves the reference ranges, Oh, okay. Well, it's within the reference range, and the TSH is at four, which is too high. And so functional medicine we look at optimal ranges, not, you know, reference ranges, because you can be anywhere in there. Like, for example, B 12 levels, or I think the range is like between 250 or 275, and 800, or something. And so if someone's like 240, they're like, or 255, they're like, oh, you're fine, it's within the range. But that is deficiency right there. It needs to be up around 1000. So they just love the reference ranges and as long as it falls within it, you're fine, which is just wrong.

Andrea  12:09
Well, it also seemed to me that was concerning was that I noticed that it had that my TSH had gone up since the last time I had my labs on which wasn't that long ago. It was sometime in the previous year. And I asked her like, isn't that interesting that it went up, even though it was like 3.75 so it's like still within the normal range? And she said, no. And I'm I don't know, I'm not the doctor didn't go to medical school. I'm like, okay, maybe it's just because I'm getting older, I don't know.

So actually, let me back up a little bit. dovetailing off of what we just talked about, like if someone is seeing a doctor, and they don't feel like the doctor is totally listening to them, or they're a little bit confused about their labs or anything, what should they do? Like should they…what kind of specific kind of doctor should they try to find? If they're in their New York, then come and see you.

Margaret  13:01
Well, on virtual so I can see anybody.

Andrea  13:02
Okay, so you can see anybody? Go to your website.

Margaret  13:06
Even if you go, you can go from conventional medicine to conventional medicine doc and still get the same crap. I would either look for a functional medicine practitioner, and you can Google that, naturopaths are also really good at detecting this too.

Andrea  13:20
Okay. Okay. And so let's talk about hormones for a minute. So what should, and this is such a broad question, but is there a difference between like, say, women in their 20s and 30s, should they get different hormone checks than just like the basic stuff that the doctor recommends when they have a yearly physical? So should they get different hormones checked than women in their 40s 50s and 60s? Like can you give us like a brief overview of what that should look like?

Margaret  13:46
Okay, so typically, my age range tends to be women in their late 30s into 50s, like perimenopause and menopause. 20s, I don't typically even check hormones on someone in their 20s Unless they're having really major issues with their menstruation,. If they're having normal menstruation, roughly a 28 day cycles, and nothing else is really going on, I really don't do hormone testing for them, or when women start going into you know, their late 30s. I may do it depends if someone's on birth control, it's hard because everything's suppressed and so when you do bloodwork to check hormone levels on someone with on birth control, it's not accurate. But when women started to get in their 40s, then I will do the usual you know, all the estrogens progesterone, testosterone, DHEA, things like that. And I’ll always, for women, even in their 20s I will do thyroid, like that's a given but I don't necessarily need to check like estrogen or progesterone necessarily if someone has normal menstrual cycles. But if they're having \fatigue, then I do check a complete thyroid panel.

Andrea  15:04
Yeah. Okay. And so that's more than just the TSH, correct? Because that's what most doctors first check for. Because I had to ask for the complete thyroid panel.

Margaret  15:15
Which is ridiculous that you even had to ask that.

Andrea  15:17
And my symptoms were that I was I originally went to the doctor because I could not figure out why I was so damn tired. Came back that my vitamin D was low, really low and so I started taking a supplement, and it helped about 50%. But I'm like, I'm still tired. What is going on? And that's when they started, okay, like, let's talk about your thyroid and things like that. But yeah, that was that was kind of the end of the conversation when my TSH came back normal, and then they were like, okay, and so I had to go and ask. So yeah, so it was a little bit frustrating.

So complete, so complete hormone panel, the whole TSH thing. What about let's switch gears a little bit and talk about libido. I was recently having a conversation with a friend of mine, and she is 40, and she said that, she's not on any medications, no antidepressants, nothing. And she said she has like zero libido. Like she doesn't ever have sexual thoughts. She doesn't think about it. She does have a healthy sex life with her husband, but he always initiates it. And she just…it's so…that's not normal correct?

Margaret  16:20
She's 40. Has she ever been on birth control?

Andrea  16:23
I don't know. She has two children. I don't know.

Margaret  16:26
Birth control will kill your libido.

Andrea  16:29
Even if you're not on it anymore?

Margaret  16:31
Well, it's sometimes it suppresses it to the point where it may or may never come back. I have young women who have zero libido, and they're in their late 20s or early 30s. It's really sad to see that. And a lot of them have been on birth control since they were like 15 or 16 years old.

Andrea  16:52
I was on it for 16 years from the time I was 16 until I was 32.

Margaret  16:56
Yeah, I mean, it does… Yeah, that is a long time, but that's a norm you know. That's pretty normal. So okay, so what was your question about libido?

Andrea  17:06
Well, just I hear that from a lot of women, you know, it's and I feel like it's probably common, but not normal. So is it normal for a woman in her 40s or even 50s to have no libido at all?

Margaret  17:18
No. Women should be having still a very active normal, with libido sex life into their 70s. And so I would ask you a couple of questions here, I would check her testosterone levels. If those are low, I looked at her adrenals. I looked at stressors. I would actually check her all of her hormones to see what's going on there and if everything looks suppressed, then I would look at her adrenals and fix that. I would also talk about trauma, and see if there's any trauma in her life in her youth as a child. And, you know, that's a few approaches that I would take when it comes to low libido. I see this so much. It's crazy how many women just do not want to have sex and sometimes if it's a low testosterone, I mean, sometimes I will certainly put women on testosterone, a little bit of it just to see if that helps. There's also sort of clitoral creams, as well to sort of enhance sensation. But if you're not self-pleasuring, if you're single and haven't had sex, self-pleasuring is definitely an avenue to go down to keep sort of things alive, healthy. Yes, blood flow. You know, if you don't use it, you will lose it. So it's always important to kind of keep things juicy.

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There was something I saw on your About Page that jumped out at me that I would love for you to to expand on. So you said, “so often, in an effort to keep the world around us running, we operate completely in our masculine energy, which is creating havoc in our bodies”. So can you say more about that?

Margaret  21:31
Yes, I love this topic. I tend to work with women, with so many different backgrounds, but especially women who are in corporate or CEOs who are very successful women. And as much as I love that, I also see women completely in their masculine 24/7. And yes, you need to be sort of in that realm when you are working in your business and running the show.

Andrea  22:01
So explain it… Somebody who's not totally clear on what that looks like, what does that mean to like, be working mostly in your masculine?

Margaret  22:08
Okay, so being in the masculine versus being in your feminine, so being in and we all have that men as well as masculine and their feminine side. So being in your masculine is sort of like taking control. Everything is very linear. Being in sort of like in power, running the show. It is just like the action. It's…I don't know how else to describe it is

Andrea  22:30
Black and white thinking I feel like.

Margaret  22:33
Feminine is more… Though feminine is also very powerful, you know. The women are feminine essence is very powerful. But it's not linear, it's more flowing. It is dropping, dropping into your feminine, especially like let's say you're in a relationship and you come home after running the show and doing all of that it's really hard for women to switch out of and dropping into their feminine, being soft and not running the show and not pushing and not being in power and telling everyone what to do all day and all night in the bedroom to your partner. And so dropping into your feminine could mean, and I think I would have posted about this a long time ago, but dropping into your feminine would be like if you're on your way home, putting on some music or coming home and just taking like a hot bath and then being able to be with your partner rather than coming home and like running the show in your home.

And though I know a lot of women come home and they have to like do things. They have to like get dinner on the table. But maybe if there was a way for you to… Because there is a transition, there is definitely a transition from masculine into your feminine essence when you get home that you can sort of do it in a way… Even if you're just doing a little bit of dancing or something to kind of unwind right before you get home just… Like for me it was about music and listening to even listening to a central playlist. I have one on my phone. Before a date before getting on a call with a new somebody if you're like on the dating scene, rather than like going from work right and sitting into you know the restaurant and then he's like now you're interviewing him. Like it's not that's not the feminine way of it all. Does that make sense?

Andrea  24:34
Yeah, the way that I think of feminine energy and this is probably because my own experience struggles in this way is to me feminine energy has a lot to do with allowing instead of trying to control and push and you know make all the decisions that are the right decisions and you know what I mean? Like it just it masculine can be an anxiety inducing for me personally. But feminine allows more of a surrendering and acceptance, not to the point where I become a doormat, and just like la la la la la. Whatever happens, like, not so far that direction, but it's just sort of like… I'll give it an easy example, traffic. Traffic and you know, when all of a sudden traffic comes to a standstill, the former me used to be so stressed out about like, oh my god, how am I going to get there? And now I'm like, I'll get there when we get there. You know, just, there's nothing I can do about it. It's so much easier to look at things that way. Same with like, airplane delays. Like flight delays, like, what are you going to do about it?

Margaret  25:42
Yes, yes, definitely. There's just a different vibe and a different feel to it. And I think we come home with after running the show in this amped up, powerful mode and then we're sort of exuding that when we get home when everyone's just like, what is going on. And I'm not saying that being feminine is not powerful, because I am a force to be reckoned with. I think we talked about this a little bit about being powerful as women, because I think being feminine does not mean that you're weak at all. But I think that what, especially when it comes to relationships, I think, oh God does a man… I'm speaking because I'm I date men. So again, from my own experience, a man loves, they love when I, my past partners at least, love when I'm in my feminine. And that just, you know that that you know that essence. Do you know what I'm saying? Like that just like softness like that sensual. And I'm not saying you have to walk around and you know, in your negligee. I can be very sensual and wear just a pair of sweatpants and it doesn't have to be what I'm wearing, it's what I'm actually…how I am is enticing and has been enticing to my past partners. And so the dropping into the feminine, just it's, you know, after a while after doing it for so many years, it just becomes part of who I am. I should just have a class about it. You know?

Andrea  27:24
You could. I can hear the wheels turning over there. Yeah, I love that. Well, even it's just if it gives people the opportunity to think about that not only think about it, but have a conversation with their partner about like, how do you feel about this type of energy that I bring? How do you feel about that type of energy that I bring? And also, I know that my husband and I have had a few big conversations about gender roles, and what we grew up seeing and understanding and we're socially conditioned to believe, you know, that one person did this and other person did that. And that has been incredibly helpful because it you know, and also walking into those conversation where nobody gets to be wrong, because it's just our social programming and having a conversation about like, how do we want it to be and co-creating the relationship? I think no matter if you're in a heterosexual relationship or not, I think it's an important conversation to have with your partner.

Margaret  28:20
Oh, absolutely. I think it's sometimes it's hard for women to ask those types of questions to really speak up about anything, even while in the midst of the act of intercourse, you know, not saying anything if it hurts, and I think it's time that we just kind of speak up for what we want, because he has no idea. You know, how our bodies, each individual want to be touched or held or what actually really turns us on.

Andrea  28:49
Mm hmm. Yeah, they can be delicate conversations and I know a lot of women… I just actually referred a client a couple months ago to I told her like go to PsychologyToday.com and find yourself a sex therapist because she has, I know that they call it religious trauma, but it's basically like growing up in a very conservative church with purity culture being the norm and her having an impossible time talking about sex with her partner. And she was like, I don't know what this block is. I just can't get the words out. And it's a big deal. You know, it's a big deal. And it's multi layered and, and sometimes it takes a professional whose expertise is in that area.

Margaret  29:32
Oh, absolutely. There's some great podcasts too. I'm not saying that, you know, that will replace therapy, but I love Sex with Emily. Have you heard?

Andrea  29:40
I haven't heard of that one. No. We'll put that in the show notes.

Margaret  29:43
Yeah, she's, um, she's a doctor. So she talks all about this stuff.

Andrea  29:47
Okay. Oh, I love that. I follow a few like really progressive OBGYN’s on social media that have been really helpful. And there was one doctor who actually showed her discharge on, on video. It was amazing. I'm like, I have never seen anyone do that. And the amount of comments of women saying thank you so much for making me feel like I'm normal and not dirty. I was like, oh my gosh, yeah, I guess there are women who just have never had that conversation with their mothers or their doctors or their friends about like, what's normal discharge.

Margaret  30:27
Yes, yes, yes. All that.

Andrea  30:29
Okay. Let's switch gears a little bit. And I want to ask you about the connection between what we eat and how we feel because I know that you are a big fan of being gluten free and that has helped you a lot with your lupus correct?

Margaret  30:41
Yes. And can I just add that thyroid conditions of any kind, people need to be gluten free, because there is a connection in the gut when the body has a gluten sensitivity, unknown, most likely unknown gluten sensitivity, it will attack that. And the gluten molecule is very looks very, very similar to your thyroid tissue. And so when the body starts attacking the gluten, when someone has a sensitivity, they are in fact, also attacking the thyroid gland. So it is imperative to be gluten free if you have…

Andrea  31:26
Okay, side question for you. You can have a test to see if you have celiac, which is kind of like the extreme of a gluten allergy. But a lot of people just have gluten sensitivities. So and I see ads all the time for you know, just lick this paper and send it to us and we'll tell you what you're sensitive to in terms of foods, like, is there one that you recommend because I'll throw money at that. Like how do you get tested for food sensitivities.

Margaret  31:55
So there's a couple of different ways now, I will tell you that I do not have celiac and the reason why I'm gluten free today is because I did a DNA test that told me that I have to non-celiac gluten sensitive genes. Meaning I'm just as sensitive to gluten as any celiac out there. That's a DNA test in and of itself. You can also do bloodwork, and if you're not in the state of New York, you can do like a gluten, or gliadin and IGT test that could be done in the blood to let you know if that's an issue. If you want to do full panels, there's a couple of different companies that I like. One is us Biotech. Another one is Alcat.

Andrea  32:40
I just don't know who to trust, especially if it's an ad. I'm always like a little bit like, oh, I don't know.

Margaret  32:46
There are also ones that you can do at home, which is sometimes what I do for my patients, because they live all over the place. So it's a finger stick, and then they send that in and I think those are pretty good contests up to I think around like 200 different foods.

Andrea  33:02
Wow. So is it true that in order to I heard this somewhere on the internet, is it true that in order to get a really concise, you know, rundown of your food allergies, it's better to get a stool test rather than blood? Or does it not matter?

Margaret  33:18
No, it shouldn't be blood. What I will say is that the ones that your allergist performs are most likely IGE testing, which is more…. So there's different types of allergy testing, there's IGG, there's IGE, there's IGA, and so it's a it gets a little complex, but though typically the ones that are performed by your allergist, like on your skin, because they're IGE reactions typically, which means those are the types of reactions you get when let's say you have a peanut allergy and you have to be rushed…

Andrea  33:53
That done as a child. Yeah, it was not comfortable.

Margaret  33:56
Yeah. And so but that's not sensitivity.

Andrea  34:00
That’s allergies.

Margaret  34:01
That's true anaphylactic reaction. That is not what… Yes, that's good to have if you something happened and you ate somewhere and then you ended up in the ER yes, then get that but if your like, the next day, I just don't feel good or the next morning after eight whatever it was, I'm just not feeling good. So that is more food sensitivities and that's where bloodwork over. The stool testing I leave for more checking for parasites or H Pylori worms, things like that, though, that will tell me if gluten has been affecting you and has been causing inflammation.

Andrea  34:42
Okay. Okay, interesting. Yeah, because like this is almost embarrassing to admit, but I'm the kind of person who I have been bloated for like, honestly, as long as I can remember since, like, puberty really. And I noticed that my daughter she's 12 now she has the exact same like physical body type is my same posture and everything and she is also bloated and I'm like something's going on with food. And but it's I, again, so embarrassing. I want to see it on paper. Like telling me exactly what it is and then I will move mountains to cut whatever it is out of my diet. But if someone tells me like it might be, I'm like, I'm gonna eat the frickin bread. Because it doesn't hurt. Like it's just uncomfortable in terms of like my clothes being tight.

Margaret  35:30
Bloating for me, which is such a common symptom is a sign of obviously gut issues. And so I'm not surprised that there is a thyroid problem as well. There is a connection there, which I'm sure no one no conventional person has yet to make that connection. But it does exist. For sure.

Andrea  35:49
Yeah. And I knew and I have, you know, talked, you messaged me, and you were so incredibly helpful on this topic. And so I'm just thinking there might be people out there who you know, who get bloated sometimes and kind of can't pinpoint, like, what it is that's causing it. And but again, it's not causing me major health issues. So I've just sort of been like, whatever. But you told me, it might be causing health issues, but you just can't see it yet. And now that I'm 46, maybe it's catching up with me.

Margaret  36:14
Exactly.

Andrea  36:16
Okay, so let's go back. Let's stop talking about me. Sorry, everyone. I just wanted Margaret on so I could selfishly, so you could help me. But let's go. Let's touch back. Before we close up, I want to talk a little bit more about the connection between what we eat and how we feel. Where would anyone even start?

Margaret  36:37
I would say that the biggest thing is if you wanted to change how you ate. And so commonly, people just I mean, I look around, and I drive by McDonald's, and Burger King, and Popeyes and all these places, and there's such long lines to get this stuff. And I would say, look, if you want to be healthier, stop eating fast foods. Number one. You have to that stuff is actually all created in a lab. It's not even real food. So and they actually add ingredients in there that cause you to become addicted to all of that stuff. So number one, stop with all of that. If you are drinking milk, cow's milk, it is literally mucus. I mean, I would stop that it's pro inflammatory, it's not good for anyone, we shouldn't be drinking the milk from a cow. I mean, just I would switch over. Switch to something else that you can tolerate, and oatmeal, goat milk, all of that. And then start really having more vegetables in your life. I think that in these days, people are just reaching for things that are easy and fast and just like throwing it in the microwave or just like going to these fast food places. But that's not health and if you're not eating the way, you know, sort of nature intended with the veggies and all of that what you put into your body, you cannot feel vibrant, your hormones will be at most likely out of whack you will become nutrient deficient. I mean, and then the body just starts to break down and then diagnosis is start. And so really focus on what it is. That's at the end of your fork now. I am gluten free. I have been for over a decade. I love to eat. And by no means am I starving. So I'm on Instagram almost every day showing people like some of the things that I eat. I have tons of recipes and examples of what I'm eating that's healthy and it's delicious. It's not, you know, plain like I'm eating you know, rice cakes all day with like, no.

Andrea  38:57
They’ve come a long way with gluten free food now.

Margaret  39:01
Yes, but the thing is, is that I rarely have anything out of a box or a can. And so for me like veggies and animal protein, those are naturally gluten free. I mean, there's nothing there's no white flour in any of that stuff. So I focus on eating foods like that. And I really stay away from most things. Now of course, why have pasta occasionally? Yes, it's gluten free. It tastes to me no different. None of my guests have ever complained of like, yeah, this this definitely tastes like it's gluten free. Like you would never even know. So I think starting off with eliminating cow's milk and stop going to fast foods is a good place to start. And that can be hard for a lot of people

Andrea  39:49
Or at least cut way back on the fast food because I do love a good McDonald's french fries every once in a while. I will admit that. But I also and I don't know how much you teach on this or talk about it, but I've also read quite a bit and maybe even follow some people on social media who talk about our poop and how much that will tell you about how healthy you are and how, you know, because it's not normal to be constipated or have like, little rabbit turds, or really loose stools or mucousy stools. So that's always really interesting to me, too.

Margaret  40:23
Yes. So having a good bowel movement. I know so many people that they want to detox, they want to, you know, do all of these things. And they're going to the bathroom, maybe twice a week. You cannot detox if you're constipated, you cannot all the toxins will remain in your body. It is probably the worst thing you want to do. And so making sure you're taking at least some magnesium at night, you know, getting the poop going. Maybe you have a parasite. You could have worms, like that's causing the constipation, you really need to get tested.

Andrea  40:57
Oh my gosh. Okay, I could ask you so many more questions. I'll have to have you on again next year. But thank you so much. Before we close, tell everyone where they can find out more about you.

Margaret  41:08
See, so I'm on Instagram @Margaret Romero, I love it. I'm on there every day. I have a podcast called The Sacred Medicine Podcast. I also have a book. It's all about lupus. If you're interested. It's called From Flare to Fabulous. And my website MargaretRomero.com.

Andrea  41:27
MargaretRomero.com. Yes, definitely. Everybody follow her on Instagram. And thank you so much for being here. Is there anything that you want to say that maybe we missed in order for you to feel complete?

Margaret  41:38
I think we touched on so many great topics. No, I think that's great. Yeah. Okay. Anybody has any questions about anything or is interested in food allergy testing, or even stool testing, just reach out to me through my website or through Instagram, I'd be happy to talk to you about it.

Andrea  41:54
Yeah. And we'll make sure to put all those links in the show notes. Thank you so much for being here. And everyone. Thank you so much for listening. I know how valuable your time is. And I'm incredibly grateful that you spend it with me and my guests. And remember, it's our life's journey to make ourselves better humans and our life's responsibility to make the world a better place by everyone.

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