I have a guest duo episode for you this week! Amy Wilson and Margaret Ables, hosts of the acclaimed podcast What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood, join me for a conversation about navigating family drama. 

In this episode, Amy and Margaret unravel the complexities of relationships and setting boundaries in a world filled with chaos makers. Tune in as we explore strategies for identifying and dealing with these challenging individuals, discuss the nuances of conflict resolution, and delve into the delicate art of establishing boundaries.  

Join us for an insightful conversation with wisdom, laughter, and practical advice!

In this episode, you’ll hear:

  • Identifying and dealing with the “crazymakers” in your life (4:27)
  • Conflict avoidant? Hear what we think about the term and how we handle conflict that comes up in our lives (13:23)
  • Boundaries and having hard conversations (23:05)
  • When is it time to go no contact with someone who creates chaos in your life? (37:56)

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Today I’m talking to Amy Wilson and Margaret Ables. Together they host “What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood,” a Webby-honored parenting podcast with over 9 million lifetime downloads. Amy and Margaret are also the founders of Adalyst Media, an advertising network for shows with predominantly female audiences, like Make Some Noise.

Before getting into podcasting in 2016, Amy worked as a Broadway and television actor and writer, and Margaret worked as a comedian and screenwriter. They each have three children, now ten to twenty years old—and they’re both married to guys named David.